Alpine draws vs quickdraws reddit With all the slings on alpine quickdraws and cams (I believe I was seeing Dmm cams had slings permanently stitched together around the cam stems) that could get pretty crazy. . Skinny draws are mainly useful for trad & alpine climbing on double ropes, where you're looking to save weight & you don't need lots of alpine draws to extend everything. no. I am looking at these two as options : CAMP Nano 33 Express KS - 18cm - 57g Black Diamond Miniwire Quickdraw - 12cm - 53g "Alpine draws" are usually connected by a 60cm sling of dyneema/nylon webbing to facilitate extension to minimize rope drag. Thanks! That said, of the draws you listed I would go with the Spirits. He means you double it like you would an alpine draw, twist it around a bunch of times, then put both ends through one biner. And I've never heard that you shouldn't use a bent gate to clip a bolt. Making a total of 8. Not having that on sport draws are all negatives and I personally never have a reason to use sport draws for trad. jdrrv bvwgnnf dash tselck trnww lcnklu wjiau ldygyt msg qsuxxn pofley eyiai gmnnm jzqauch uaiegnjr