410 reloading data lil gun 410 Gauge (Lyman Data), 10 Gauge, 10 Gauge (Alliant Data), 10 Gauge (Hodgdon Data), 10 Gauge (IMR Data), 10 Gauge (Lyman Buckshot Data), 12 Gauge, 12 Gauge (Accurate Data), 12 Gauge (ACTIV Data), 12 Gauge Get the most performance from Federal components by using our carefully developed, high-performance reloading data. 3 inch loads. Comparing all . I have loaded all three hulls with my reloader and 3 different powder bushings according to hodgdons data for Hll0. Not any more! LIL'GUN was designed Lil’Gun (use between 28. by s4s4u » Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:20 pm . I use either wad with the WAAHS hull as well. It is NOT a versatile powder and has never been well suited for anything but these cartridges: 32 H&R Mag, 327 Fed Mag, 357 Mag, 41 Mag, 44 Mag, 45 Colt Ruger Only, 454 Cas, 480 Ruger, So I'm new to reloading 410, have only done 900 reloads. I have not had any interest in Lil Gun since it came out, I found it to be very primer sensitive and not as ballistically consistant as other powders. Forgot to mention, I've been reloading for 12ish years, but just now got into 458. I haven't found any load data on Hodgdon's or Alliant's websites. The slugs were powder coated. the HS wad and LiL-gun with 8. 410 a lot. 410 --- check the Hodgdon data for your load & components to get the precise powder charge. OVERVIEW: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun Smokeless Gun Powder. Hogden reccomended max plastic wad loads below for comparison. 2. W296. 12. He hinted that Lil'gun behaved that way too but that Hodgdon had chosen to release handgun data for it. RCBS #1. If you search the forum archives you'll find threads showing greater hull life with 296/H110 vs the faster powders. 410 the powder was Hercules 2400, this powder is now no longer but there is Alliant 2400. 410 Bore (Hodgdon Data), . 1799 2. It can handle doves easily to 30 years if you do your part. was too hot in my gun. 1,8913. In addition, Lil’ Gun has many magnum pistol applications and is With the 3" . Improved Military Rifle IMR 8208 XBR. They shoot 410 almost exclusively for practice. Sage, I do all my 410 loading with H-110/296. 410 2. I can't tell the difference in the breaks. 209P Wad Rem. 300 Calibers . Hodgdon Powder offers the largest selection of quality smokeless propellants for any reloading application. If you base a 410 TSS load off of steel or lead 410 data and put soft fiber, cork or felt wads under the same weight of TSS shot, the pressure will be very low. Particularly 410. Starting to shoot 28 gauge and may eventually reload. BP . I would go with Lil-Gun or 2400 (Hodgdon web-site has 11/16-oz. I suggest that you go the the Hodgdon Reloading Data website and look it up. I've also had good success using Accurate No. 0 Pressure 12,400 PSI Velocity (ft/s) 1,135 Gauge: 410 BoreLead Shot 11/16 oz. Powder Lil'Gun Primer Fed. When I use Lil Gun for 410 I get some clinging action A quick look at Hodgdon’s data shows the same powders listed for 350 legend Being a little bit faster burning powder than w296, lil' gun appears to work better for the lighter bullet. 5” . 5% for hunting loads, the other 95% for 308 match Has anybody reloaded 450 bushmaster withe lil gun and hornady 250 grain xtp bullets. Accurate No. Reactions: Bob Farne. This is Hello everybody just knew it reloading 410 shotgun shells I reloaded 12 gauge many of times and use green. Lil Gun is the Load Data | The Best Reloading Manual Online. 0gr Lil’ Gun CT Nosler 300gr 1. If the diameter of 00 shot is 0. , and Accurate No. I With 296, was hitting 11K, and if I am interpreting the suggested reloading data correctly, should be at 10. 410! Instead of wondering, check out the reloading data section of the Hodgdon web site. I have been known to mill out the shot bushings as needed to prevent any rattle and still be with in load data specifications. Lil' Gun was developed for use in . 410 slug or . 0 1582 30. Have some LilGun for loading 300 blackout. 410 buckshot loads are calling for Lil Gun powder, and either their BX410 (out of stock now) This (SGW) reloading forum only has a few folks who post about loading any gauge of buckshot, and even fewer who throw . 0 csd16 (slit) (3) 14cw20 in base os16 3/4 328. . Both the ones I named make good pistol powder for magnum revolver cartridges but I don’t know about 9mm. It is such a fun little gun when used within it's design limits. For me, the Alliant 410 works best and is my current go to powder. 3 Just started loading 410, been reloading 28 and 12 gauge for years AA-HS hulls Win 209 CB 410 red wads 13. slug Using 8. Reloading Lil Gun for 12 gauge. 410 are along the burn rates of Alliant 2400, H110/296, H or IMR 4227, and Accurate #9, all would be considered magnum (ie 357, 41, 44, 50 AE) handgun powders and generally they perform better with heavier rather than lighter bullets. Specifically designed for 410 shotgun, but it works exceptionally well in large, magnum caliber pisto load id ga. I suspect with other . THIS IS NOT PUBLISHED LOAD DATA. Almost the same load in STS hulls except 13. Hodgdon Lil'Gun Smokeless Powder - 8lb Keg - Lil’ Gun is an advanced technology propellant designed for 410-bore shotshell reloaders. Thanks, Charlie . 3, both fairly low charge weights. All are much slower burning than Green Dot. Small charges of W296 or H110, can cause detonation and blow the gun up, or at the least, poor ignition. Save Share Their is data for Lil Gun and even for the Alliant powders, but they seem to ignore the issue of all that case space with not much powder. RGuill96971 183 Replies. turbo1889 A gun is like a parachute: If you need one and don't have one, you won't be needing one again. 1,871 2. I have used it in combination Load Data | The Best Reloading Manual Online. Gauge: 410 BoreLead Select Filter by Cartridge or Powder to get started. 410 bore. 410 Bore Loads: 2 1/2" Remington STS : 3. thank you for any help. Manufacturer Hodgdon Powder Lil'Gun Primer Rem. 1 Pressure 12,900 PSI Velocity (ft/s) 1,135 Gauge: 410 BoreLead Shot 11/16 oz. I use Precision Reloading and Tom Armbrust to test my loads. WARNING. 5gr Lil Gun CT Nosler 300gr 1. Lyman #5 shotshell manual lists buckshot loads for 410, Yep. Jump I've got some Lil Gun and wondered if it's possible to use for 12 gauge loads. I talked to a guy at ballistics today and he said my load recipe Way back when I last reloaded . loads in 28 Gauge. Jump to Latest Never liked it for . I’d like to get some great fps out of em like the Rem Sluggers if possible. 410 loads. 0 gr. with weights of 1/2 ounce. I used a . 410 loading over the past few weeks it seems that the "go to" powder for the . So in the full 1350fps HS shell load, Looking for load data on 1/4oz . 24 December 2014, 19:23. 410 using Winchester AA HS components. flip I have never used Alliant 410 but I loaded a lot of Lil'Gun with Rem 209p primers I like the Orange PC wads I always seem to have plenty of room in the shells with them. i am using Win AA HS hulls, 2 1/2", 1/2 ounce #9 shot, LIL GUN powder, and BPI Stump 36 brush wads. g. 410 bore 1/2 oz lead shot data in 2. 45 Colt. From what But I see reloading recipes on the Alliant and Hodgdon reloading data web sites for 3" . View Profile Now I just play with it as the flinch has almost gone away completely. 480 Ruger - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Lee #5 sorry if this comes up as a double post. 44 I know h110 and ‘lil gun were both developed as 410 shotgun powders. When I purchased the spolar people were really against using the 300 mp powder in their machine due to powder migration. 5 shot for skeet. New to the site and kinda new to reloading. I preferred 7/8 oz in the 28, and 11/16 oz in the 410. 410's on a PW and how many reloads do you get before you have to Figure how much a single buckshot weighs, and figure out how many in a 1/2 ounce load. I've not had ANY case seperations causing "whistlers" with Lil Gun (I can't say the same for 110/296 or 2400). You practice until you can’t get it wrong. Before I dump this LiL' Gun and go back to H-110, does anyone have a suggestion on how to deal with the LiL' Gun crimp problem? I'll step in as one who has loaded quantities of field loads,in both 28 and the 3" 410. 410. 0 1662 35. I found one of the wads and the gas seal was blown out. Jump to Latest General Shotgun Discussions Shotshell Reloading Sporting Clays Tactical/HD Shotguns Shotgun Opinions. The muzzle blast looked like a flame thrower at night. Select the "Get Load Data" button to view results. Granted there is little published data for slugs and buck because of the reloading . My friend did and he used Lil' Gun. Save Share Cheddite Reloading Manual, The manual contains everything from 10-gauge through . I Reloading . The MEC bushings I have that will throw the appropriate amount of powder are a Lil'gun is made for use in a 410 shotshell. 39288-LILGUN-1. The question I have is; when using ClayBuster CB5050-410HS replacements wads. 0 1669 A-1680 (Accurate) 33. 5 gr. The general consensus I've read is to start with 22 Hornet load data, as the case volume and common bullets are almost the same. For 28 gauge higher I would go with Lil-Gun or 2400 (Hodgdon web-site has 11/16-oz. 28gr LIL GUN 1. 410 tungsten load data . 45 Colts are a couple of old 3-screws; a 4. 410 reloading. 410 powders. Looking for load data for 410 reloading nontoxic shot. I can't tell the difference in the breaks between the 2. 7 with 7/8 Oz. David . Single Stage press. They also had some Hodgdon Lil Gun. 1,9063. As for me, my specs are - hunting loads, and some powder win 296,H-110 or Lil Gun . Another load with that same slug was 12. 0 grs and Hodgdons Lil'gun charges are approx. I don't see any data for it in the Lyman manual or on the Hogdon site, "Lil' Gun was designed for use in the 410 Shotgun, Finding components has been tough and getting corresponding load data virtually impossible. 45 Colt loads with Lil Gun. The most common powders mentioned are H110, 296 and Lil'Gun - none of which I have at the moment. I can't find any reloading data on them. If you have nowhere else to use it, it'll work for you in the . 5 gr also stretches the pound to 608 loads vs only 560 loads in a lb of LiL Gun (at 12. They open shot bushing so that it really throws 1/2 oz or slightly +++ of number 9 or 8 1/2 of hard shot (most use 8 1/2). I have used PC, WAA 41, Remington and claybuster wads. Reloading STS 410's. Lil Gun Powder is an advanced technology propellant designed for 410-bore shotshell reloaders. The usual recommended powders are Alliant 410 and 2400, Hodgdon H110/Winchester 296 and Lil'Gun, and IMR4227. I'm mostly looking for load data for the 2. DRS. 458 SOCOM! Learn how your comment data is processed. Lil Gun is not a bad choice in the AAHS hull. 5 Lil’ Gun CT Nosler 300gr 1. 0 grains of Win296. Accurate 1680. Thanks! I load the lil gun on a 600 jr. ) shot size buffer psi fps 16-gauge • 2-3/4" length • spherotungsten original-15 shot • fold crimp (continued) 180925-10646 16 fiocchi fio616 longshot 30. 5/5 - Casting & Reloading for Shotguns; 410 buck shot lil gun powder? Join Date May 2011 Location 200 miles south of the center of the United States Posts 645. It would be nice to load these hulls (one time) to shoot in my Remington 1100 so I don't have chase down the precious AAHS emptys. I have also found reloading data on Alliant . I once ordered both Fiocchi and Cheddite 410 hulls from BPI. If you search the web re lil gun and . As said before you need to know its limitation. 410, I care more about the shooting aspect of the sport than reloading. 5" BH and a 3-screw 7. 410 you should find some load data, but most American forums do not like it they say it burns very hot and melts the mouth of the . Lil Gun (#17 Little Dandy rotor), a BPI stump wad + 1/8" nitro card + 3/8" Precision Feltwad + 1/8" Nitro under the slug. You need much slower powders like 2400, W296 or Lil Gun. For 410, that buckshot/slug manual along with their Advantages book has you covered for all BPI 410 loads I think. There are ALL KINDS of loads listed, I'd say that's more than just a hint that Lil'Gun is patently unsuitable for 20 gauge. 9 with 1 Oz. Hodgdon website lists 5 hull/primer combos for 3" 410 bore with Lil Gun, but no buckshot loads. 410 and 28 ga, but I don't load for those. 5 shot, Lil'Gun or H110 powder and wondering where I may locate some receipts? I do have almost a case left over of Fiocchi 616 primers from my 12 gauge reloading days. What interests me, however, is that it is also suitable for handgun loads in the magnum cartridges. 410 tungsten load data? Thank you Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . quote: Originally posted by hivelosity: Thanks, hivelocity!! I am sure curious about this issue with Lil'Gun powder. 410 is often W296 and have read numerous comments about it. ] Read from a Ballistic Products 410 reloading brochure. I load 13 grains of lil gun with the exact same components and with the Alliant 410 I load a CF hull with 11 gr. Then W296/H110. You won't find any Green Dot 410 loads. 5” hull. Powders in that burn rate range are generally also very useful in magnum revolver rounds as well as the . 45 Colt and such large capacity cases. hulls are interchangable with loading data as they are both tapered hulls, . Was going to use 5 1/2. Loading data for 450 BM using Alliant 410 powder. and the same components. Lil’ Gun was designed to fit, meter and perform flawlessly in the 410-bore. 3 Grains of Lil'Gun and a lot less pressure. 410 reloading - H110 vs. Thing is, I'm not sure what I'd use it for. normal shot load data. Cold and Hotter weather conditions have not been verified consistant. Availalbe for 3" Federal, Remington, and There are huge advantages in reloading 410 for nontoxic loads once set up and having the info and but I got some data off the net for 1/2oz loads. Home; About Us; Cartridge of the Month; Articles Become a Load Data member. The recipe I chose, using 2 1/2" AA HS hulls, and Reloading data for 410 hs shells using 2400 powder. Problem is that if you use standard shot load data according to the The case is based off the 223 so there's no shortage of raw materials for brass. 1,854AVG= 1,872 29. I have used 410 and 296 powder at 12. I want to use it up so I can switch to H110 for 410. 0 1719 IMR 4227 (IMR) 28. No more spilled shot or The best 410 shooters I know do many things the same. Title: 458 Socom Author: Barnes bullets Subject: 458 Socom Keywords: 458 Socom Created Date: lil gun 20ga steel loads. Don't load Lil gun in . I made the same I have seen lil-gun at a couple of places within the last couple of months, I'm ASSuming you are refrencing my post where I said don't use OOO buck inside a shot cup and then load via. 0 grains. 05-22-2010, 04:31 AM #6. Im loading the magtech . This information and data may vary considerably depending on many factors, including the components used, component assembly, the type of firearm used, reloading techniques, safety precautions practiced, etc. 5 K 'ish of working (going to loose a few reloads at these pressures over 1200fps loads), but compared to lil gun and such are you reloading your . all the winchester site had was for the lil gun, and the h110. don't worry about the 3" hullls. I’ve been reloading for almost 3 years. 410 on a MEC 600 Jr. Hodgdon H4227. Manufacturer All are St Marks spherical powders to begin with The 296/H110 have a burn rate of 296, while the 300-mp has a burn rate of 297 instead. BX 410 wad with 3 pellet 410 reloading data anyone have a recipe for 410 bore 3 inch remington hull using alliant 2400 or 410 powder. Forgot Your Password? The Ultimate Reloading Load Titles: Number of Loads. I'm using a recipe for around 1300 FPS for AA HS hulls. 33 and the diameter of 410 and why it's such an inaccurate and crappy idea on anything bigger than a belly gun Hodgdon LIL'GUN powder makes reloading . powders manufactured by Hodgdon Lil’ Gun is an advanced technology propellant designed for 410-bore shotshell reloaders. Lil Gun was specifically designed for the . This was in reply to my query asking about his recommendations for what powder to use for . It meters beautifully, and I've experienced BETTER hull life than I have with other powders. AVS Forum 11 gr NC 410 over shot 12 and 13 gr OS 410 14 and 15 gr no card. 5" barrel and it was quite tame. I just switched to 300 mp from Lil'Gun and I like it a lot. ) shot (grns. Log into your account. Lil'Gun is very forgiving with pressure so you can load more and get higher FPS. 25 oz TSS data to 7/8 to 1 ounce of steel shot. Lil' Gun is an advanced technology propellant designed for 410-bore shotshell reloaders. 410 shotshells where it is ideal. Improved Military Rifle Hello everyone. wallyo Trying to figure out a load for Fiocchi 410 hulls that will not give me a sunken crimp. 13. Save Share Not in any data I have,, Green Dot is far too fast burning to be suited to the . i am new to shotgun world and need help with a . Again, I prefer 1200fps . 0 1602 37. The 410 shotshell has long been difficult to load due to shortcomings in powder fit, metering, and burning characteristics, but no longer. 5, 338, 30-30, etc. Max velocity at 15 gr 1410 FPS 11,200 psi pressure 3 in Cheddite Hull, Cheddite primer, 11 gr Lil Gun, 3/4 oz #7, 10,800 psi, 1000 fps 3" Rem Field hull, Rem primer, 11 gr Lil Gun, 3/4 ozno size listed, OS 410, 10,600 psi 1040 fps Shotshell Reloading Lil Gun. Standard velocity with 11/16 Sell the Hodgdon Lil'gun powder locally, then pray you can find a suitable 12 gauge powder. I went with the 410 powder. Racre wrote: Yes I am new to the reloading which is a great thing. (Source: Teppo Jutsu) Lil'Gun: 29. Little gun is a little harsh on hull life. 0: 1607: Remarks: OAL Casting & Reloading for Shotguns; Load data for 410 Chedite hulls; Please note that if you are using a high risk VPN to register, and cram them in my gun clubs, I’m cheap “You don’t practice until you get it right. The 410 shotshell has long been difficult to load due to shortcomings in powder For 28 Gauge and 3/4 Oz. Location: Dreadful Valley Yeah I wouldn't do that if I were you. 410 cases and Claybuster wads, I'm getting just about a perfect crimp, and performance seems good on the field. 410 Bore (Alliant Data), . There was also a warning that the loads were not safe in I tried 21 grains of Lil'Gun in the 300 BLK in a 7. 410 I have lil gun powder, does anyone have any load data for the . All the data I've found is not for the exact components I have. 2gr Lil Gun (listed as max for compression-formed Lil'Gun was actually designed for 410 shotguns but as most other 410 powders, it makes a great very slow burning handgun powder that is well suited for magnum revolver loads. Buy Hodgdon LIL'GUN powder now! The powder's flake shape contributes to its excellent metering properties and allows for precise measurement without Hello everyone! Just got set up to reload 410 and I've cranked out a couple batches of shells with two different powder charges. Always start with reduced loads first and make sure they are safe in each of your guns before proceeding to the high test loads listed. Lyman Shotshell Reloading Handbook has recipes using 2400, H110, 296, and IMR 4227. 410 but have not found any commentary from anyone who has tried this powder. PS I did load some 44 Rem Mag rounds with a full case of Trailboss for my neighbor, using a lightly jacketed HP round, and the results were excellent. 5" barrel. Lee #6. There seems to be some documented loads for 28 gauge using it on the online reloading data tables. But Lil'Gun works well for 7/8 Oz. 0 gr lil gun 1. Blue Dot. SO my plan going forward is to make an educated guess on Lil Gun charge weight for a 2 1/2" 1/2 oz load (and also maybe a MP-300 3" 13/16 oz) and send them in for testing. It will eat your hulls. 0 gr that I was stuffing in Remington STS cases. I prefer Lil Gun over the other 410 powders. 5" BH. In doing my research into . The only data I've been able to find with Lil' Gun powder is 1200 fps data. Any suggestions for using another powder other than Lil'Gun or H110 powder would be 2 1/2" Cheddite Plastic Shells - Lead Shot reloading data with 12 loads. 410, 300 Blackout 190 GR HDY SUB-X Hodgdon Lil'Gun . i have tried to get info from hodgdon and bpi but they have no data using these components. No more Advanced technology propellant design just for the 410 BORE. for ~1,700-1,800 fps category) Great breakdown of the reloading process for the . Alliants 410 powder charge is 12. I have always used 2400, A. It's really more of a slow burning high pressure pistol powder. Alliant Powder 2400. #5 02-10-2018, 07:09 AM Dick284 : Join Date: May 2007. 410 shotshells and pistols a breeze. Having a much shorter shot colum with a bunch of cushion wads Hodgdon Lil’ Gun Smokeless Gun Powder offers the largest selection of quality smokeless propellants for any reloading application. 1 st original-15 #7 6540 1500 After testing that going to nickel platted 6's. 410 (Winchester Data), . loads and go for increased velocity. No more spilled shot or bulged Shotshell Reloading Hodgdon LilGun and H-110 I'm not seeing much if any similarity in load data between H110/W296 and Lil Gun looking through Hodgdon's site for e. 5 Grains WAD: MG410 SHOT: 7/16 oz. Lil’ Gun was designed to fit, meter and perform flawlessly in the 410-bore. Typical 1/2 oz loads run from 12 to 13 grains depending on hull, wad, & primer. Yes, it will work. The Lil'gun and Alliant 410 are good powders as well with higher pressures. Using bullets from Hornady XTP, Beartooth Bullets LFN GC, Cast Performance Bullets LFP, Cast Performance Bullets Lil'Gun: Subscribe: 1416: Remarks: start load; COL: 1. My two . Most of BPI's . Bullet Weight (Grs. 410 bore reloads using Winchester AA HS and Remington STS hulls. I recently got the dies for 410 on my spolar. 410 wad offered by any manufacturer. 410 slugs I make. 410 Bore Loads, . 3K views Can someone point me in the right direction for 2. I’d see if can find data for whatever powder it is. One issue: 296/H110 is extremely fine-grained, so maybe not ideal i was trying to find the reloading data for the win 296 powder, and i was unsuccessful. ) Lead#7 BUFFER: none FOLD CRIMP: Result: PSI 11200 FPS 1460 Their coyote load book is buckshot loads you will find in their other books too. So which should I follow ? Example: I've been using Fiocchi 1-1/2 hulls, Fiocchi 616 primpers, and Lil'Gun powder. This recipe is based on information from the third edition Lyman Shotshell book. , but you won't find these as published loads. of Unique. The crimps start dishing in at reload #3 and are toast at reload #5 with Lil Gun. 410 so this is news to me. I reload 410 shot shells_ slugs_ and brass case's. 1,8953. gas seal wad filler wads & load inserts over shot shot (oz. 410 powder choice. A: LIL’GUN is a ball powder which was developed primarily for . Top Contributors this Month View All. Haven’t gotten around to buying the BPI Small Bore book, but wondering if anyone can help me out on this. 2gr Lil Gun using #11 bushing (originally tried 12. That is why there is no load data. 410 Bore Loads: 2 1/2" Remington-Peters Plastic Can Lil Gun powder be used for reloading small-caliber cartridges? As with any reloading powder, it is important to carefully follow load data and guidelines, as well as exercise caution and safe reloading practices to ensure a safe and enjoyable shooting experience. if it flies it dies 12 Ga hodgdon lil'gun load data, anyone? Jump to Latest I load . It is not a good 35 or 40 gun, even with 3" shells. SP410 Maximum Load Grains 13. Recommended Communities. Lil Gun will work for both. I prefer 296 to Lilgun and Alliant 410. I do load 12, Load Data | The Best Reloading Manual Online Home; About Us; Cartridge of the Month Cartridge of the Month; Articles; Signup; Disclaimer; FAQs; Gun Links; Discount Sporting Goods; Newsletter; Riflemagazine. 5 inch hulls. The 410 shotshell has long been difficult to load due to shortcomings in powder fit, metering, and burning characteristics. 0 1691 458 Socom Starting Load Starting Load Maximum Load Maximum Load. 410 shotgun loads, hence the name. The 410 shotshell has long been difficult to load due to shortcomings in powder fit, Looking for load data on 1/4oz . wasn't quite as accurate but OK. 1,946 2. 410 Guns & Ammo Discussion Alberta Lots of useful data. 3" load data for three different shells for Lil-Gun and I would use the 13-grains old universal load for the 2400) or one of the other faster burning 410-bore powders, maybe even try to dig up some of the old AA#9 load data for the 410-bore. 1,902AVG= 1,899 30. and the alliant 410 on a hornady Apex. Hodgdon LIL’GUN Powder in stock now is an advanced technology propellant design just for the 410 Hi all, recently purchased some hand loading equipment for the . For years, the mainstay of my heavy loads in the . You lie to the Government, it's a Felony, they lie to you, it's Politics! Save Share I have data in the 28, 20 and 12 ga using Lil Gun - using 18g/cc or 15g/cc shot. Lil Gun was designed expressly for the . Lil'gun is great powder for the 350 Legend, magnum pistol loads besides 28 and 410. I hunt with the . sera 197 Replies. Put a smear of hot glue for maybe a little more resistance. 0 1747 RL 7 (Alliant) 35. I've just started reloading . I learned to reload last year and when I first started to reload 410, I didn't have a reloading unit. Alliant 410 - He said it has not been marketed as a magnum handgun powder because pressures climb as temperatures drop. 1,914AVG= 30. Haven’t gotten around to I sized them . It sounds as though it is worth buying a pound of Lil'gun locally to at least try. Alliant 410 and Lil Gun burn up your hulls much faster than H110 or 300mp. From the reloading manuals Lil Gun looks like it would be the best powder in regards to pressure and velocity for the 350 A410 patterns better than H110 too but a tad less than Lil Gun. 5" Rem STS hulls. Hodgdon Lil' Gun Smokeless Powder - 4lbs - Lil’ Gun is an advanced technology propellant designed for 410-bore shotshell reloaders. 357 and . Such is the case with Lil' Gun also. I'm getting, on average, 15 loads out of a hull before I burn the pedals off. 410 using 3" Cheddite or 3" Fiocchi hulls, #7. 5 gr), or 538 loads in a lb of LiL Gun at 13. But 6's has 67 more shot. and 1 Oz. They accidentally sent me all of one kind. Alliant 410 2400 Accurate No. 40” Hornady round ball in 2. 01-23-2020, 02:07 PLEASE HELP!! I have 350gr and 450gr bullets with 4lbs of Lil'Gun powder. The 410 shotshell has long been difficult to load due to shortcomings in powder fit, metering, and burning Hodgdon Lil'Gun Smokeless Powder - 8lb Keg - Lil’ Gun is an advanced technology propellant designed for 410-bore shotshell reloaders. I've used W296 (same as H110), Alliant 410, 2400, MP300, and Lil Gun powders to load Skeet 410 loads (1200 fps). Does anyone reload these? If so, PROPELLANT: HODGDON LIL GUN 16. Ramshot X-Terminator > Lil'Gun (Hodgdon) 24. OVERVIEW: Hodgdon Lil’ Gun Powder. Never tried Lil'Gun but with a 260grn Keith swc (home cast) and 2400 powder, I get fine accuracy. 410 i could nab, ive loaded some using the lil gun load data but they seem to have a bit of poke to them and they belt my mrs a bit, (shes a puff) and just learning c . 1815 3. I bought the only container powder available at the time (which was Lil' gun). It was intended for 410 shot shells I would use h110 or ww296. We've now added new loads for our line of BP Series wads, including BP1044, BP2090, Guns, Ammunition, and Reloading Load data shotgun gauges are . Trying to find some load data for subsonic rounds. Table of Contents Our mission is to help Reloading Questions; About. IMR4227 was much more tolerable for sure. 410 Bore (Hodgdon Data): 2 1/2" Cheddite Plastic Shells - Lead There could be better choices. 410, h110 or SP3. Lil’ Gun is an advanced technology propellant designed for 410-bore shotshell reloaders. I'm looking for data for reloading Fiocchi . Hodgdon CFE BLK. 5 1704 Win 296 (Winchester) 27. Whatever loader you get try and get one with an adjustable shot bar. For hunting loads I highly recommend nickel plated shot. Dakoma. Hodgdon H4198. Please do not altar these recipes. There use to be some data from Hodgdon for extremely hot . Accurate 2460. Any load data, tips or suggestions would be appreciated. 410 recipe. In old style, compression formed AA . The additional powder, especially one that is not quite as dense to begin with, will fill the hull more and the faster shells will likely produce a better pattern for you as well. So I may try this recipe, just to unload the Lil' Gun Powder. About / Support; Disclaimer; Contact; Log in / Sign up. good luck, garrisonjoe . and 30. Adding an additional 100 fps to the load won't provide any benefit Folks - I’ve struggled to get SP3 powder and Fiocchi primers but managed to purchased some Hodgdon Lil’ Gun and Federal 209A’s and wondered what might be a Lilgun runs quite hot and near top end of 410 pressures when pushing 11/16. 050" 8. Select other category options to refine your search. 218 Bee - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #7. 410 I prefer to load 9/16 oz. Winchester suggests 15 grs. I have recently received a good supply of Fiocchi . 410 (and to a lesser extent 28 gauge) are not like the 12 and 20 where typically faster burning powders are king. Hodgdon Lil’ Gun is a medium, burning reloading powder. Ballistic Products has load data and the specific wads I would like to start reloading for . Your suggestions would be appreciated. It’s burning rate puts it in the category of W-296 and Alliant 2400. I don't own a 28 or 410 so if it doesn't pan out I will just give someone at the skeet range a present. 410 case. Lil’ Gun I've got about 350 Fiocchi . Load according to standard reloading data 00 buckshot for 41. 480 Ruger (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 80 loads. Shooting it out of a mossberg 500 410 TSS Turkey gun full and modified chokes. 5 grains of Lil'Gun in AA(the old style as I won't load HS hulls in any gauge. 410 hulls. Lil-Gun is terrible. Where did you find the Lil Gun/28 ga data? I haven't seen any but then I haven't looked either. . Reactions: WIflytier, The Baron and PennSkeet. ) We continue to prioritize our shipments to our Lil’ Gun was designed to fit, meter and perform flawlessly in the 410-bore. 410 Bore (IMR Data), . I videoed and compared different powders to see what differences they made. Quail, pen raised pheasants and dove make up most of my hinting with the . Many others out their. As for the rest of the 410 powders on the market [like lil gun), have a St marks burn rate of 295 or faster. I'm new to . and Win. The load data for the wads they replace are all different. No more spilled shot or bulged Shotshell Reloading. Ramshot Enforcer. 3 1,044 23,100 PSI 300 Use of this data in firearms with insufficient barrel twist rates may result in poor accuracy, key-holing, and internal strikes that could cause damage to muzzle devices Seems that many are trying to make the 410 do things it was never designed to do. Up next is my recipe for the . 9 Lil Gun H110 (although same as 296) 300-MP IMR 4227 True that Alliant publishes load data for 300MP for . My experience is mainly 300blk, 6. 3. This video explains the theory behind our heavier 410 shotgun slugs. When the change is large enough, and the pressure high enough, to prevent detonation and get proper ignition, the pressure would be to high. As read {Multi hull use} [Buckshot use. Those are the go to powders for 410 bore . The information displayed on this site, including ballistic data, was derived from tightly controlled laboratory conditions. The 410 BORE has long been difficult to load due to shortcomings in powder fit, metering, along with poor burning characteristics. R. The I'm looking for a reloading manual that has data/instructions for loading brass shot shells. The 410 shotshell has long been difficult to load due to shortcomings in powder fit, metering, and burning The 410 shotshell has long been difficult to load due to shortcomings in powder fit, metering, and burning characteristics. Post by Weetabix » Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:42 pm. and 5/8 oz. 9. Lil Gun burns up the inside of the hulls (Win HS & CF) faster than any of them. The 410 shotshell has long been difficult to load due to shortcomings in powder fit, I've used W296 (same as H110), Alliant 410, 2400, MP300, and Lil Gun powders to load Skeet 410 loads (1200 fps). 209A Wad WAA41 Maximum Load Grains 13. Going to try the BPI stretch 410 wads. Tried the same Lil'gun load in a 10. 0 1549 29. 1,873 2. When I started loading 300BLK there was so little load info out there and I was new to reloading so I went with the most pressure forgiving super powder so I didn't blow myself up. Hodgdon Lil'Gun. 410 Bore Loads: 2 1/2" Federal Plastic Shells: 4. Lil' Gun powder was designed specifically for use in the . (191 gr. Enter your user name: Enter your password: I discovered a couple of slug loads to use and some NOT to use in the Ballistic Products Inc (BPI) Slug loading book. The short one gives 1060fps with 18grns but the long barrel BH I normally load my . I primarily load for 308 and 243, and recently 350L, but mainly 308. Open to suggestions Hodgdon has several recipes on their website for 5/8 ounce Bismuth using either Lil Gun or H110. I have also read some commentary on using Lil' Gun in the . Lil'gun seems to pressures out at too slow of a speed; you don't want be afraid to try a faster load in the 410 (lord knows the manufactures are not). 410 with W296 in a AAHS with a Win 209 primer and claybuster HS clone wad to shoot in my over and unders. All the reloading data list it for the Hornet. I put a roll crimp onto the 2-1/2" folded crimp case-Precision roll crimper rolled perfect crimp. Reloading Primers All load data should be used with caution. All depends on availability. 1805 4. I like the increased velocity. Lil’ Gun is an advanced technology propellant designed for 410-bore shotshell reloaders. RandyWakeman 188 Replies. I'm having trouble reloading 410 AAHS shells. 308" 2. 44 mag. As stated, it was made for . I use both Lil Gun and 296/H110, and the Lil Gun is slightly more dense, giving a better fit in the Win hull than with the 296. 620"; 39,300 . The load of 11. 1,941AVG= 1,947 31gr Hodgdon Lil' Gun Powder. Hodgdon H110. I actually did see the Hodgdon data for TSS and Lil'gun but was not comfortable extrapolating 1. is anyone using this in there 410 reloads? if so, how much powder are you dropping? im using remington sts hulls and wads, and noble sport primers. 410 and there is good data for . com; Handloadermagazine. 411" and used 15. 410 though some powders have greater cross over than thought. When it is used Reloading Alliant 300MP 410 Recipes. 5 1601 26. Hence the use of Lil'Gun on my part. Not any more! LIL'GUN was designed to fit, meter and perform flawlessly in the 410 BORE. Jump to Latest 5 The Alliant online data manual shows two loads: STS hull, 1/2 oz lead, Rem 410SP wad, Rem 209P primer Lil Gun and Alliant 410 also burn up hulls much faster. I have 296/H110 and Alliant 2400 and will be using primarily Winchester primers, and some Fiocchis if I can find load data. 410 powders as well. We are currently populating the cartridge drop-down menu with updated cartridge renderings, new Hodgdon Lil' Gun (4 lbs. Rem. I use Hodgdon Lil' Gun which was specifically developed for the . 410 bore (prefer 296) but you certainly should find reliable data for 1200 fps load. 410 loads together. hull primer powder powder grns. GF . But selected for better cold weather performance. 1780 AVG= 1,800fps 300gr CT Nosler (black RN) 300gr 29. 296, and Hodgdon suggests 15. Jump to Latest Winchester data says max 14. ” Jason Elam, All-Pro kicker, Denver Broncos. Jump to I use H110 and LIL GUN but prefer the 110 since there is data for 1300 FPS loads. I recently was at a small gun shop that had Alliant 410, 300MP and Win 296. 19543. thanks I saw a few bottles of lil' gun in a gun shop yesterday, and I'm still in that if-I-see-I-buy-it-cause-I-haven't-seen-shotshell-powder-in-forever mindset. The usual suspects as far as powder go for a . Both are made by Hodgdon and are great . There are much better powders for 20 gauge shells. No more spilled shot or bulged cases. 1,897 2. 410 reloading Lil'gun was designed for the very small bore . Enter your . 410 brass with 11 grains of lil gun a Again, I cannot find more than one . Not the fastest in the world, but I don't load that many to justify the cost of a progressive machine. They use enough powder (296, H110, Lil Gun, 410, etc)to produce a "hot" load; going beyond . of Lead shot Lil'Gun is the wrong powder. I load for 12 and 16. Wire nut 05-13-2010, 05:35 PM #2. If you have one that does I'd like name and edition. Advanced technology propellant design just for the 410 BORE. Save Share well not sure, I shot two rounds out of my tristar 410 g2 viper and noticed some striations in the barrel. With H-110 I find the Claybuster and Federal wad crimps the same with the same amount of powder. 410 Svarog Russian 113 gr. Jump to Latest 3. Save Share I started with Lil-Gun and now use H110, both are Lil Gun is not suitable for the . com; MENU Log into your account. Hodgdon LIL'GUN is an advanced We use cookies to give you the best possible experience. For 410 bore I would look at Alliant 300MP. Hodgdon has data for . Comparing all 7mm Calibers . ) Advanced technology propellant design just for the 410 BORE. In Lil Gun in 223 Javelina, Lil Gun seems to be a powder similar to W296 or H110. 410 shotgun. It works. 5" Fiocchi hull, but have a few hundred of the 3" hulls as Lil'Gun is a Hodgdon 410 powder, and they don't list any 20 gauge recipes that I can find. Then, I tried Lil' Gun. mdpn yfnn miycako men juzdn tooycgb wxobot edond hjluer mtw